求助：forcite 模拟有机物在金属表面吸附时总是出错

小刚仔

---- Dynamics parameters ----

Ensemble                        : NVT
Temperature                     : 298.00 K
  Control method                : Nose
  Q ratio                       : 0.0100000
Timestep                        : 1.00 fs
Number of steps                 : 500
Duration                        : 0.5 ps
Initial velocities              : Random
Random number seed              : 1673190047

---- Energy parameters ----

Forcefield                      : Universal
Charges                         : Use current
Electrostatic terms:
  Summation method              : Ewald
  Accuracy                      : 0.01 kcal/mol
  Buffer width                  : 0.5 A

van der Waals terms:
  Summation method              : Atom based
  Truncation method             : Cubic spline
  Cutoff distance               : 9.5 A
  Spline width                  : 1 A
  Long range correction         : YES
  Buffer width                  : 0.5 A


---- Thermostat ----

Nose mass parameter, Q mass: 6.00477 kcal/mol*ps^2


---- Constraints ----

Position constraints            : 90

Dynamics calculation - Aborting dynamics.
An unphysical integration step (>100 Angstroms) has been detected.
Try relaxing the structure with geometry optimization, reducing the time step,
reducing the temperature or a combination of these.

小刚仔

sobereva 发表于 2023-1-9 22:42
如果体系并不大，建议用CP2K等第一性原理程序在DFT级别做几何优化或动力学，比任何常见力场都靠谱得多。

这......看不太懂，估计要花一段时间了呜呜呜

sobereva

如果体系并不大，建议用CP2K等第一性原理程序在DFT级别做几何优化或动力学，比任何常见力场都靠谱得多。

小刚仔

卡开发发 发表于 2023-1-9 11:45
看牵不牵扯到成键断键的事情，比方说分子上有孤对电子直接配位到金属上的情况，我觉得一般力场基本上得不 ...

好的呢，谢谢你。我不懂这方面的

卡开发发

小刚仔 发表于 2023-1-9 11:27
这样，文献里用的是compass力场的，不过我的有机物不一样，新的物质，还没文献报道的，那怎么办呢

看牵不牵扯到成键断键的事情，比方说分子上有孤对电子直接配位到金属上的情况，我觉得一般力场基本上得不到太可靠的结果，这种情况会有点麻烦，可能要考虑专门的神经网络势或者半经验或者第一原理方法。其他方面可能我给不了特别专业的讨论和建议，你可以看看其他人的说法。

小刚仔

卡开发发 发表于 2023-1-9 11:25
你选择的力场可能恰好不包含你体系当中原子对之间作用的类型。有机物得看何种有机物，有些有机物可以在金 ...

这样，文献里用的是compass力场的，不过我的有机物不一样，新的物质，还没文献报道的，那怎么办呢

卡开发发

小刚仔 发表于 2023-1-9 11:16
谢谢你，换了力场了，还是不行
---- Dynamics parameters ----

你选择的力场可能恰好不包含你体系当中原子对之间作用的类型。有机物得看何种有机物，有些有机物可以在金属表面产生特性吸附，甚至在MD过程中会发生成键断键，一般的力场不见得能正确描述，你可能需要调研下其他计算方案。

小刚仔

直接使用compass力场对金属结构优化都不行

---- Geometry optimization parameters ----

Algorithm                       : Smart
Convergence tolerance:
  Energy                        : 0.001 kcal/mol
  Force                         : 0.5 kcal/mol/A
Maximum number of iterations    : 500
Motion groups rigid             : NO

---- Energy parameters ----

Forcefield                      : COMPASS (Version 2.8)
Charges                         : Forcefield assigned
Electrostatic terms:
  Summation method              : Ewald
  Accuracy                      : 0.001 kcal/mol
  Buffer width                  : 0.5 A

van der Waals terms:
  Summation method              : Atom based
  Truncation method             : Cubic spline
  Cutoff distance               : 12.5 A
  Spline width                  : 1 A
  Buffer width                  : 0.5 A

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The typing engine has failed to calculate a forcefield type for 10 particles.
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Unable to calculate energy and gradients.
Geometry optimization finished with an error condition.

小刚仔

牧生 发表于 2023-1-9 09:39
先试试换力场再说
Universal是针对金属离子的，不能用于单质金属。

谢谢你，换了力场了，还是不行
---- Dynamics parameters ----

Ensemble                        : NVT
Temperature                     : 298.00 K
  Control method                : Nose
  Q ratio                       : 0.0100000
Timestep                        : 1.00 fs
Number of steps                 : 500
Duration                        : 0.5 ps
Initial velocities              : Random
Random number seed              : 1673234054

---- Energy parameters ----

Forcefield                      : COMPASS (Version 2.8)
Charges                         : Forcefield assigned
Electrostatic terms:
  Summation method              : Ewald
  Accuracy                      : 0.01 kcal/mol
  Buffer width                  : 0.5 A

van der Waals terms:
  Summation method              : Atom based
  Truncation method             : Cubic spline
  Cutoff distance               : 9.5 A
  Spline width                  : 1 A
  Long range correction         : YES
  Buffer width                  : 0.5 A

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牧生

先试试换力场再说
Universal是针对金属离子的，不能用于单质金属。