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[综合交流] Request advice about software for conformational search for organic molecules

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Hi guys,
Can you advise me about a good and free software that can perform a conformational search (Molecular Mechanics), because i found a good one (conflex software), but it's a little bit expansive.


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发表于 Post on 2020-6-27 08:30:46 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
In our lab, we use Pcmodel 10, it is a free software developed by the same company with GMMX module in GaussView. It also has same functions with GMMX. You can get more information from this page http://www.serenasoft.com/.
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发表于 Post on 2020-6-27 09:06:46 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
Molclus
http://www.keinsci.com/research/molclus.html
It can flexible invoke Gaussian, ORCA, MOPAC, GFN-xtb and Open Babel to perform a construction or conformation search at any level literally conveniently.

Btw, what is the size of your molecule? MM-level methods could not even qualitatively confirm that you got the lowest energy conformation. A QM-level step may be necessary, as long as you can afford the computing cost.

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发表于 Post on 2020-6-27 17:04:44 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
MM is rarely useful if you need to obtain lowest conformer and qualitatively reasonable Boltzmann weights. See Int J Quantum Chem., 118, e25512 (2018)
MM at most can be used to sample potential energy surface, while further optimizations and energy calculations must be carried out at DFT level or better, as illustrated in my conformation search tutorial articles using molclus:
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Molclus is freely available and quite flexible, any level supported by Gaussian, ORCA, MOPAC, Openbabel, xtb can be combined into conformation search process, and molclus provides very convenient tool to generate initial geometries, sort optimized geometries and remove duplicates.
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Thank you very much guys for your good replies.
Dear wangzhe, GMMX is very good, but unfortunately, i can't afford the price.
Dear snljty, i work with molecule about 30 atoms.
Dear Sobereva, molclus is good and free, but i'm looking for using the MMFF94. Does molclus support it ?

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mekelleche 发表于 2020-6-27 19:27
Thank you very much guys for your good replies.
Dear wangzhe, GMMX is very good, but unfortunately, ...

Pcmodel 10 is free, and it it same software with GMMX. You can get this point from the icon. If you want to use GMMX but can not afford the money, you can try Pcmodel, they are totally same. And also, MM is supported.
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 楼主 Author| 发表于 Post on 2020-6-27 20:52:24 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
Thank you very much Dear wangzhe.

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mekelleche 发表于 2020-6-27 18:27
Thank you very much guys for your good replies.
Dear wangzhe, GMMX is very good, but unfortunately, ...

Using molclus in combination with the freely available OpenBabel, you can use MMFF94 to perform conformation search.
However, a much better choice is using molclus in combination with xtb, the GFN-xTB supported by xtb is extremely fast and the accuracy is significantly better than MMFF94. For conformation search of a molecule containing ~30 atoms, I do not believe this is any reason to still use the very old MMFF94.
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