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[Gaussian/gview] How the separate each fragment alone of an IRC task ?

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Hi,
I'm computational chemistry PhD student, and this is my first time on the forum. I would like to ask a question about the fragment analysis of a reaction.
Accordig to my researchs i found some tools like Excelautomat 1.3, PyFrag2019 to perform the fragment analysis automatically, but it didn't work for me, and i decided to make the whole work manually.
My question is, how could i separate each fragment alone of an IRC calculation, for example I performed an IRC task of Diels- Alder reaction, and i want to separate the ethylene and butadiene along the IRC.
Note: the program used is Gaussian 09 D.01

My thanks in advance
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发表于 Post on 2021-2-1 11:41:01 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
Do you mean you want to separate C2H4 and C4H6 in every structure of the IRC task?
These two points might be helpful:
(1) In a structure every atom has a number (1, 2, ..., N, N is the number of atoms) which does not change diring the whole IRC job. You can just follow the number to know which is the fragment of interest.
(2) Gaussian calculates the density matrix once a structure is given, and the distances are given in the output file (.log or .out). You can write a script (also GView can do this automatically I guess) to judge the bonding situations and then judge which atoms are connected as a part(fragment) while others are not.
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 楼主 Author| 发表于 Post on 2021-2-1 14:43:39 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
Dear colleague,
You got me right, that's what i'm looking for, but the problem i don't know how to start. Could you help me, please ?

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发表于 Post on 2021-2-1 14:52:14 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
maximos 发表于 2021-2-1 14:43
Dear colleague,
You got me right, that's what i'm looking for, but the problem i don't know how to  ...

Load your file into GView and then tick View->Labels:


The labels of atoms are consistent with their sequences in your input file.
In the case above, if you want to follow the C2H4 fragment you just follow the atoms No. 4 5 11 12 13 14 in each structure of the IRC job.


现代化学以狄拉克的一句“一切化学问题业已解决”为嚆矢。滥觞于经验主义传统的期望正失去它们的借鉴意义。但面对看似不可达的通往天堂之阶梯,我想循伍德沃德“最好的模型是你底物的对映异构体”的信仰好过过早地振翮。
我们怀揣热忱的灵魂天然被赋予对第一性的追求,不屑于单一坐标的约束,钟情于势能面彼端的芬芳。但

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 楼主 Author| 发表于 Post on 2021-2-1 15:03:09 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
Thank you very much for your effort, and about the separation process, How can i do it ? It must be done automatically.

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发表于 Post on 2021-2-1 15:13:58 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
maximos 发表于 2021-2-1 15:03
Thank you very much for your effort, and about the separation process, How can i do it ? It must be  ...

In your output file (.log or .out) you can search "Input orientation", which is followed by the cartesians of the atoms. Based on this you can design your script.
现代化学以狄拉克的一句“一切化学问题业已解决”为嚆矢。滥觞于经验主义传统的期望正失去它们的借鉴意义。但面对看似不可达的通往天堂之阶梯,我想循伍德沃德“最好的模型是你底物的对映异构体”的信仰好过过早地振翮。
我们怀揣热忱的灵魂天然被赋予对第一性的追求,不屑于单一坐标的约束,钟情于势能面彼端的芬芳。但

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本帖最后由 北大-陶豫 于 2021-2-1 15:22 编辑
maximos 发表于 2021-2-1 15:03
Thank you very much for your effort, and about the separation process, How can i do it ? It must be  ...

I have written a script before, which monitors the optimization process of a Gaussian job.
See Converge_Reader.cpp in https://github.com/Tao-Yu-Chem/GaussianScripts/

You can change its code to meet your requirements.

现代化学以狄拉克的一句“一切化学问题业已解决”为嚆矢。滥觞于经验主义传统的期望正失去它们的借鉴意义。但面对看似不可达的通往天堂之阶梯,我想循伍德沃德“最好的模型是你底物的对映异构体”的信仰好过过早地振翮。
我们怀揣热忱的灵魂天然被赋予对第一性的追求,不屑于单一坐标的约束,钟情于势能面彼端的芬芳。但

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 楼主 Author| 发表于 Post on 2021-2-1 15:31:17 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
Dear Colleague,
Thank you very much for your time and help, i truly appreciate it.
The link that provide is not working. (Not found)

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发表于 Post on 2021-2-1 15:35:04 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
本帖最后由 冰释之川 于 2021-2-1 17:29 编辑

How to convert outputs of IRC jobs to the *.xyz trajectory files:
http://sobereva.com/285http://bbs.keinsci.com/thread-850-1-1.html

Convert *.xyz trajectory file to the  separated *.xyz files:
Multiple_XYZ_Split.py (2.13 KB, 下载次数 Times of downloads: 4)

If you have obtained the separated *.xyz files from IRC jobs, you can use this python script to extract coordinates of each fragment
XYZ_Coordinate_Extraction.py (4.51 KB, 下载次数 Times of downloads: 2)





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发表于 Post on 2021-2-1 15:44:05 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
maximos 发表于 2021-2-1 15:31
Dear Colleague,
Thank you very much for your time and help, i truly appreciate it.
The link that  ...

Sorry, I don't know why but just copy the link into your browser
现代化学以狄拉克的一句“一切化学问题业已解决”为嚆矢。滥觞于经验主义传统的期望正失去它们的借鉴意义。但面对看似不可达的通往天堂之阶梯,我想循伍德沃德“最好的模型是你底物的对映异构体”的信仰好过过早地振翮。
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 楼主 Author| 发表于 Post on 2021-2-1 21:34:02 | 只看该作者 Only view this author
Dear Colleagues,
Thank you very much for your help, everythings works fine.

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